Lagritz
Untrained
Urgal Spellcaster
The truths of this world are both wonderful and terrible.
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Post by Lagritz on Nov 22, 2008 13:27:49 GMT -6
So what does everyone think that the main conflict of this site should be? I think that once we decide that, it will be easier to form other interesting plot ideas. Don't be shy with your ideas.
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Post by Berl on Nov 22, 2008 18:26:22 GMT -6
well, as I said before, we/you should more clearly define who's in power (maybe it actually is Galbatorix), and then we know who we're fighting for/against. but that can be the main conflict, can't it?
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Post by Rivlet on Nov 22, 2008 19:13:21 GMT -6
I kind of wanted to refrain from having a plot that was too similar to the books, especially since the series isn't finished yet. I also wanted to steer away from including canon characters, because everyone has their own idea of how the character would react in a given situation. Therefore, if we had someone like Galbatorix take a specific action, half the members on the site would say "yup, that's what he would do," and the other half would say "no way would he do that." And then it would cause problems.
However, I was thinking that maybe we could have the Varden and an anti-Varden group. They could be struggling to control the land or something like that.
Hope all of that made sense. Any comments?
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Post by Berl on Nov 22, 2008 19:19:30 GMT -6
it makes sense. and that sounds like a good idea... but then what makes the varden and the anti-varden different? that is, who are the anti-varden?
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Post by Rivlet on Nov 22, 2008 19:26:47 GMT -6
Hmm, lets see...
If we assume The Varden represents a group that wants the land to be free of an oppressive ruler, then the anti-Varden would be a group that is trying to put an oppressive ruler on the throne. Also 'The Varden' means 'the guardians,' so what would the opposing group be called?
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Post by Nilaya on Nov 22, 2008 22:28:16 GMT -6
I don't know about a name for the anti-Varden group, but it could be that the anit-Varden isn't really a group but an oppressive ruler who took control in the chaos Galbatorix destroying the Riders created. They could be a ruler that originally had the support of the people because they promised to make things better, but in the end they're basically as bad as Galbatorix was.... or a family line since Galbatorix only reigned for so long because he was immortal. Anyone else would probably have died by the time this plot takes place so it would be a descendant of them, but the same idea.
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Post by Rivlet on Nov 22, 2008 22:56:44 GMT -6
That also sounds like a good idea. We are coming up with some great thoughts here. Keep them coming.
Have any ideas about who this family line is? Names, places, how many there are, exactly how powerful they should be?
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Post by Nilaya on Nov 22, 2008 23:27:47 GMT -6
Well, they should rule in the capitol so the main ones would be in Uru'baen, but possibly some of the others are officials in other towns. As far as how many and the names.... how many depends on how picky they'd be about the line staying within the family, whether there would be inbreeding or not. I'm not sure about any names yet.
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Post by Berl on Nov 23, 2008 10:24:42 GMT -6
members of the family would also probably rule in other major towns, since the king wants ppl he knows he can trust/control to be in charge in as many places as possible.
as for names, since i know the magic system in Eragon was based on another series, and since the antagonist of that series has a pretty nice (and by nice i mean not kind, but good for our purposes) name, they could be the royal family Torak.
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Post by Rivlet on Nov 23, 2008 12:23:01 GMT -6
I agree that members of the royal family would be in every major city. Except, of course, in Surda, the Beor Mountains, and Du Weldenvarden. But who knows, maybe they would have ambassadors in some of those places as well. As far as the name goes, I don't have any problems with Torak, but I would still be interested in hearing other ideas as well. I like options.
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Post by Berl on Nov 23, 2008 12:45:34 GMT -6
well, another rather cool sounding name is Yfel, which is the old english word for evil. courtesy of wikipedia
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Post by Nilaya on Nov 23, 2008 19:39:35 GMT -6
If they're tyrannous rulers the elves wouldn't probably have allowed them into Du Weldenvarden and probably not even if they weren't. I thought the elves were hiding their city? I also doubt the dwarves would have let them into the Beor Mountains. Not so sure about Surda. They might have ambassadors there.
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Post by Berl on Nov 23, 2008 19:52:31 GMT -6
I think the dwarves would let the anti-varden ambassadors in, because the anti-varden seems to have a huge army, which means they could easily overrun the dwarves, so just to keep things peaceful, the dwarves submit. that's what i think, anyway.
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Post by Nilaya on Nov 23, 2008 20:06:31 GMT -6
Not if we keep the Varden based in the same place. That's like handing yourself over to the enemies. So, where is the Varden based? I know this is in the other thread, but it's just as pertinent to this discussion.
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Post by Berl on Nov 23, 2008 20:15:48 GMT -6
on the other hand, connected to what i said about having a big army that can overrun the dwarves, i'd say the dwarves also don't want to associate with the varden and bring that same fate down on themselves (i'm assuming the dwarves are thinking tactically and not morally, which, i admit, they might not be.)
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